Should We All Quit Facebook? Not Yet (IMHO)

 
Don't quit, Mike!
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Last week, the brilliant Josh Hermsmeyer at Capozzi Winery (also known as @PinotBlogger) posted a controversial post entitled: Why I Quit Facebook, And Why Wineries Should As Well – it is well worth a read.

Josh manages to combine a great marketing mind with a brilliant passion for making wine, great technical knowledge and an ability to communicate (yes, a bit of a hero to me). It is just a shame that I may never get a chance to taste his wines. However, his posts are always worth reading.

Having said that, I disagree with him on this one.

The conclusion of his post is summed up as:

Bottom line: Even if you never plan to advertise or otherwise leverage Facebook’s “social graph,” You do not want your brand tainted, even by association, by the sh*tstorm that is engulfing Facebook.

His argument is that the kinds of activities that Facebook has been accused of entering into should not be condoned, and that if you are a winery (or any business) on Facebook, you will be tainted by it by association:

… there can be no doubt that the risks of maintaining a presence on, and thus providing a tacit endorsement of, Facebook far outweigh any benefits you can possibly think to imagine. Act accordingly.

You can read his report and plenty other reports out there about what Facebook is accused of doing, but essentially it seems to be about breach of trust. In his view, that breach is so serious that he simply cannot be part of the network. That is his decision. It is also the conclusion of many other influential individuals such as Jason Calacanis and many thousands of others.

I respect Josh’s principled stand. In the comments he says:

Even if you are using Facebook just to have a conversation where your customers are, you are tacitly endorsing the medium. I can’t do that any longer. I owe the peeps more than just looking out for my brand’s interests.

My actions are communicating to them louder than any wall post what I value, what Capozzi values, and where we draw the line in terms of where commerce ends and a trusting, worthwhile relationship begins.

Wineries who are on Facebook may well be there simply to engage with their customers around the world. This is still one of the best places to do that, even if I do recommend that this is just a means of taking that relationship elsewhere (like a winery’s own blog).

Essentially, I don’t believe that having a business presence on Facebook “tacitly endorses” whatever may or may not be going on behind the scenes between Facebook and their advertisers with our data any more than running a local wine shop “endorses” dubious commercial property deals by banks.

Wineries NEED to communicate with their customers, and if the customers are on Facebook and are willing and eager to engage there, then wineries will have a presence there. IF there are privacy concerns, there is no “ethical duty” to disengage with the network. It is not the business’ or brands’ role to make decisions for their customers about these things. As long as they are part of the network they can & should lobby for things to change and do their best to communicate this to their friends and customers.

“The REAL issue is that this is a closed network that is trying to justify, and monetise, itself …”

As I write this I hear that new privacy arrangements are being made by Facebook. I’m dubious that this will quell the discontent fully.

The REAL issue is that this is a closed network that is trying to justify, and monetise, itself by getting bigger and offering even more options to everyone. I don’t believe it can do this without getting too complex. It is getting so big that the revenues it needs to achieve become astronomical, encouraging “extreme” behaviour. We need to keep an eye out and complain, but not necessarily run away.

There is a precent for this. AOL grew exponentially by educating millions of us about the internet. However, eventually we grew tired of the walled playground and we left it for the more exciting WWW. Facebook introduced many individuals and businesses to the Social Web. The time will come when many of them will cut the apron strings and venture off into the wider social world. But not yet.

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Please read Josh’s full post AND the comments. This is a wonderful example of what kind of conversation a blog can create. This is Josh’s topic, but anyone can respond, disagree or agree, and he engages with all of them to clarify and refine the message.

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  • http://www.catavino.net Ryan Opaz

    well done! Nice post. Personally facebook is not a big threat to someone who is there to fully promote themselves. 99% of people are not aware of Facebooks issues, and the reverse arguement could be made that by “pulling out” you are drawing attention to the problems, which will be fixed, or will cause a new platform to grow up from it’s corpse! :)

    • http://thirstforwine.co.uk thirstforwine

      thank you. I agree that for those of us with “personal brands” it is less of an issue, and that we SHOULD object to misuse of data and warn others as best we can. But we shouldn’t make the decision for others about whether this is a place to interact or not except in the most dire situations – and I don’t think we are there yet.

  • iamloddy

    As a fledgling web designer, I believe that if a winery or for that matter, any company/slash brand is focused on maintaining integrity or related principles then they would be well served by providing a personalised forum for their customers to do that. Facebook (and other similar services) sadly create an all too easy shortcut around the preferably solid, reliable and uninterrupted online presence that other companies rely on.

    I view Facebook as a (albeit long-term) fad, the likes of which Myspace used to be a forerunner but they quickly become littered (not an understatement) with irrelevance and distraction.

    So, although I’m not sure that my point echos Josh’s own, but I believe communication with customers both potential and regular, should be from the base/core/home of the company in question. If a website enabled (almost) real time communication and up-to-date information, then given the sophistication of browsers on handheld devices and such, I don’t see how twitter and facebook bring that information any closer to one’s fingertips.

    • http://thirstforwine.co.uk thirstforwine

      Thanks @iamloddy – I sort of agree with your point. Brands need their own home away from networks such as facebook as the REAL conversation is best continued in a place that is dedicated to it, BUT, how do you get anyone to come, and more importantly WANT to come? These networks are very important not just for spreading the message but having enough of a conversation to encourage your new friends to come and visit your home. You need to be part of the network if you are to do that.

  • http://www.winetravelmedia.com/about Wink Lorch

    Thanks Robert for alerting us to Josh’s excellent post and the many many comments – it’s an excellent debate over there. However, I do agree with you and with Ryan on this.

    Yes, there is a privacy issue, badly handled by FB, but I do question why everyone gets so worked up about privacy in such a high-principalled way. As someone pointed out on the comments over on Pinoblogger, people don’t hesitate to email personal information (and photographs, by the way) and that could easily be compromised … so could use of skype, mobile phone or even a straightforward landline telephone conversation. Let’s get real here and be careful with what we communicate, but not get so worked up about it and give it some perspective. Simply don’t say things that you don’t want anyone to hear or read, and don’t allow yourself to be photographed in places or positions you don’t want to be (!), etc etc.

    And, let’s celebrate this opportunity (while it lasts and I think that FB in some form or another may well last quite a while) to encourage engagement and conversation with colleagues and customers in an incredibly low-cost (if time-consuming) way.

    One of the comments on Pinotblogger was from a small winery discussing how a FB page has allowed them to engage with their existing and potential customers and how it might reflect badly on them if they suddenly left FB. For small wineries/brands and many other small commercial/marketing groups or even freelance individuals, all with a very low marketing budget, FB presents a great opportunity that all might as well make the most of in a reasoned manner.